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Tatiana Dokuchic
@tatiana-dokuchic
25 Jul 2015 03:49:32AM
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TTR Content Copybotted & Imported to Sunlight-Grid


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Here's one screenshot of the Facebook page for Chateau de Versailles in Sunlight-Grid. This group has since disappeared from Facebook.

The profile link for Marie-Antoinette de France right here on Royal Courts.

Tatiana Dokuchic
@tatiana-dokuchic
25 Jul 2015 03:40:12AM
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TTR Content Copybotted & Imported to Sunlight-Grid


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Took a visit to the Sunlight grid yesterday, specifically my French Pavilion which had all the content of my inworld display model (tea set, tables, chairs etc.) so about twice as much as I had originally listed.

Kind of made me sick standing there in the middle of all my hard work.

FYI, here's a look at the Chateau de Versailles group:

Tatiana Dokuchic
@tatiana-dokuchic
24 Jul 2015 12:02:38PM
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TTR Content Copybotted & Imported to Sunlight-Grid


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One "advantage" Sunlight has over LL is that (right now anyway)it's a small operation.

Managing content theft is complicated & time consuming and the effort probably grows exponentially with grid size.

I have a fair amount of sympathy for administrators on any gridtrying to grapple with it. It's hard to tell who the injured party really is.

That being said, Itoo wish LL would figure out a better way to deal with it.

Tatiana Dokuchic
@tatiana-dokuchic
24 Jul 2015 11:47:13AM
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TTR Content Copybotted & Imported to Sunlight-Grid


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Thanks Jacon! You have mine as well.

Tatiana Dokuchic
@tatiana-dokuchic
22 Jul 2015 03:18:30PM
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TTR Content Copybotted & Imported to Sunlight-Grid


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Kudos to the Sunlight-Grid administrative staff.

I couldn't have asked for better help in sorting through this situation!

What a pleasant & welcome surprise!!

Tatiana Dokuchic
@tatiana-dokuchic
22 Jul 2015 11:00:24AM
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TTR Content Copybotted & Imported to Sunlight-Grid


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As everyone knows, I usually stay far away from discussions like this just because I don't feel I have the time or the energy to moderate them correctly.

I'm making an exception in this case, since I'm obviously going to be knee deep in the details.

As most of you know I am the owner of Tatiana's Tea Room (TTR). I create all the products sold from this store; none of them have been sold with full permissions and I have never given anyone permission to use my products on any grid other than Second Life.

I have recently received photographic evidence that at least seven of my products have been copybotted and imported to the Sunlight-Grid.

According to an object inspection, this was done by Marie Antoinette deBourbon, Group=Chateau de Versailles, Region=Versailles (510, 508, 22), Parcel=Parc du Chateau.

The list of stolen content (with links to original sales on the Second Life Marketplace) include:

TTR-The French Pavilion
https://marketplace.secondlife.com/p/TTR-The-French-Pavilion/2734143

TTR-Fontainebleau Fireplace-Boudoir de la reine
https://marketplace.secondlife.com/p/TTR-Fontainebleau-Fireplace-Boudoir-de-la-reine/1497817

TTR-Queen's Mantel Clock
https://marketplace.secondlife.com/p/TTR-Queens-Mantel-Clock/643190

TTR-Compiegne-Cherub Mirror
https://marketplace.secondlife.com/p/TTR-Compiegne-Cherub-Mirror/643194

TTR-Louis XVI Salon Curtains
https://marketplace.secondlife.com/p/TTR-Louis-XVI-Salon-Curtains/3238459

TTR Antiques-Jardin Francais-Planter w Flowers-08 (Copy)
only available inworld

TTR-Parterre de broderie-04 Green Grass
only available inworld

There is also a copy of Jimpsky Rhode's "lantern_square hall" which I do not sell but is displayed at my inworld location.

The last picture confirms that all this was not just transferred but copybotted as they left in my vendor box for the Pavilion as well as my Tatiana's Tea Room-Information Giver 2013 complete with my logo on it. See bottom left-hand corner.

Go figure.

I'm in contact with the Sunlight-Grid Administrators and I'll keep you updated on the situation. In the meantime I think it's more than justified to "Name & Shame" here.


updated by @tatiana-dokuchic: 07 Apr 2019 04:08:42AM
Tatiana Dokuchic
@tatiana-dokuchic
20 Aug 2015 08:45:05AM
1,922 posts

Theft in SL


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You go girl!!

I agree, the next few years will be mind boggling.

My guess is that textures & mesh will always transfer. Then there's experience, knowledge & the passion to create that will never go out of style :)

Best wishes in all your ventures!

Tatiana Dokuchic
@tatiana-dokuchic
19 Aug 2015 05:57:58PM
1,922 posts

Theft in SL


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Everything, including mesh, can be copied.

Please don't letthat stop you for doing what you love to do. See my comment here about continuing on after content theft :)

Tatiana Dokuchic
@tatiana-dokuchic
12 Aug 2015 01:57:56PM
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Theft in SL


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There are a number ofhistoricalestates working together now. I won't mention them here as I think it's up to the individuals to identify themselves if they so choose.

By working together, I mean that we're sharing information and it's up to the individual estates to take action as they see fit.

It's not a perfect solution but at least it's proactive and, as you say, a step in the right direction.

Tatiana Dokuchic
@tatiana-dokuchic
21 Jul 2015 11:08:53AM
1,922 posts

Theft in SL


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A subject near & dear to my heart.

As any creator using the internet soon learns, you're going to have to deal with content theft. It's inevitable and it's gut wrenching. Every individual has to decide how much joy they'll allow the thief to take away from their creative process and how much time & energy they're willing to spend in response.

I'm actually surprised that, in this case, the creator held Antiquity (somewhat?) responsible for protecting his/her items from copybot. I believe that it's the creators responsibility and they (fortunately) have most of the control over the situation.

Honestly, the best thing a creator can do is to file a DMCA.

You can see some of the results over at SLU DMCA Tracking .

Make sure that you have working copies of your work and anything else necessary to prove that the item in question is yours.

If you need advice the SLU Intellectual Property Issues forumis a good place to go. They also "name & shame" over there which may help the community at large.

As far as I know, filing AR's really aren't that effective. If you want LL to even consider the situation you have to have multiple filings against the same avi and in cases of intellectual property LL is just going to reiterate that the creator must file a DMCA for action to be taken.

As estate owners, Skye & I do ban suspected copybotters from the Duch de Coeur. Yes, we know we're playing whack-a-mole but at least we're being proactive. Fortunately we pretty much see eye-to-eye on these situations so our reviews don't take very long. Our land our rules.

I also ban people from this site for suspected copyboting . I do my best to juggle fairness with not being taken advantage of and my conscience is clear on the decisions I've made. Again, my site my rules.

I hope this gives others some food for thought. Looking forward to hearing other opinions!

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